SOG Swedge Knives

SOG Swdge III

I was at the magazine rack the other day when I saw in a knife magazine that Brent Beshara, elite soldier and knife designer (as well as a reader of this blog, I’m pleased to say) has designed a set of knives in collaboration with knife manufacturer SOG.

All 3 feature the innovative Besh Wedge geometry.

The SOG Swedge I is designed for icepick grip use, with the blade

SOG Swedge I

facing outward. The Spyderco Pikal knife I wrote up earlier is designed for a reverse icepick grip, with the blade facing inward.

 

 

My preference is for the blade out. A blade outward design means that with upraised arms in the boxer’s guard, an attacker cuts himself as he attacks. When I trained with Master Ed Planas, we frequently used this grip

Master Ed Planas. You don't want to face this guy with a Swedge I in his hands!

The curved blade of the SOG Sedge I means that the point is in alignment with a downward thrust. If you think about the forearm hinging downward at the elbow, a straight bladed knife tip is actually several inches ahead of the point of power, which is right underneath the bottom of the fist and aligned with the arc of the hand.

In this view of an icepick thrust, the power zone is in a straight plumb line from the bottom the fist. The tip of the knife is several inches beyond that zone.

If you look at the photo above, if the wielder makes contact with the hand and point of the knife like this, the blade acts as a lever, exerting force to pry the knife out of the fist.

The SOG Swedge II (There is also a review at the link.) is designed for a saber grip.

SOG Swedge II

The SOG Swedge III is essentially a bigger version of the Swedge II.

SOG Swedge III

These knives are ideal for those who need both a utility knife (due to their fierce yet solid points) and a self-defense knife.

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5 Responses to “SOG Swedge Knives”

  1. Way too many sharp edges; seems funny on a knife eh? The photo that Darrin shows is a much user friendly design. We are humans and not robots so I don’t understand all the sharp edges on todays so called tactical knives. Handle slabs should also come all the way to the edge of the handle for a more comfortable grip. It seems the more tactical something is called the less practical the design.

    I am with Darrin in that the edge out is more practical with the Ice Pick grip and that the edge in requires too close of a range to be effective. I say that also knowing that the Ice Pick grip itself is also a close range fighting style.

  2. Edge out is good for some things, but edge in is better for in-close fighting. Think of it as trapping range with a knife. Yes, its brutal and almost nobody trains in this method. There are a few of us who understand the application and train/ teach it as such. Its what Southnarc refers to as ‘shearing and clearing” and in some schools the alive hand is also heavily employed (including my approach). Of course, this is not meant to be a knife against knife duel…you must always remember that the context is different than that application. For knife against knife I prefer 1. running away, 2. a .357 magnum, 3. a rapier, 4. a forward grip and a double-edged knife. I’m just sayin’…

  3. Tommy,

    I remember in training with Ed Planas that he showed me the edge-in grip briefly, and the best application that I saw was against someone who grabs you. You’re right, that any limb you trap with the blade edge-in is in big trouble –talk about “death grip.”

  4. A great way to train that grip is with ‘sticky hands” drills using a trainer. It adds a whole new dimension to the exercise. In FMA the Hubud/ Lubud drills are excellent for developing the right feel and can easily move from empty hands to edged weapons. These drills aren’t the end goal though, as many schools now teach it, but merely a means to develop ambidexterity and feel/ sensitivity. Then try some controlled sparring.

  5. I knew beshara while in 2 rcha. Cant for the damn life of me find a swedge 3. Will pay a ton! Black tactical if possible. Any suggestions?

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